Retired professor Jim Fetzer, extremely prolific current and historical events commentator and author, discusses with me the plethora of staged shooting events we've been seeing in the context of federal grants and commercial contracts. Dr. Fetzer describes this as a "metatheory" -- the plan behind the plan, you could say. We hear his favorite adjective "RIDICULOUS!" many times, as the heights and lengths to which our culture is being manipulated without public suspicion is indeed baffling. Toward the end of the interview, I refer to my prior guest, Veronica Ciandre, and the astonishing biophysiological work she has done (on herself); Jim Fetzer shows another side of himself in this discussion -- most interesting!